diff --git a/flags/telecom_anomaly_report_flags.aconfig b/flags/telecom_anomaly_report_flags.aconfig
index 296b300..b060ed0 100644
--- a/flags/telecom_anomaly_report_flags.aconfig
+++ b/flags/telecom_anomaly_report_flags.aconfig
@@ -8,3 +8,11 @@
   description: "When getCurrentFocusCall times out, generate an anom. report"
   bug: "309541253"
 }
+
+# OWNER=tjstuart TARGET=25Q2
+flag {
+  name: "disconnect_self_managed_stuck_startup_calls"
+  namespace: "telecom"
+  description: "If a self-managed call is stuck in certain states, disconnect it"
+  bug: "360298368"
+}
diff --git a/src/com/android/server/telecom/CallAnomalyWatchdog.java b/src/com/android/server/telecom/CallAnomalyWatchdog.java
index 045671e..497d7e6 100644
--- a/src/com/android/server/telecom/CallAnomalyWatchdog.java
+++ b/src/com/android/server/telecom/CallAnomalyWatchdog.java
@@ -18,15 +18,22 @@
 
 import static com.android.server.telecom.LogUtils.Events.STATE_TIMEOUT;
 
+import android.content.Context;
+import android.content.pm.ApplicationInfo;
+import android.content.pm.PackageManager;
+import android.os.Build;
+import android.os.UserHandle;
 import android.provider.DeviceConfig;
 import android.telecom.ConnectionService;
 import android.telecom.DisconnectCause;
 import android.telecom.Log;
+import android.telecom.PhoneAccountHandle;
 import android.util.LocalLog;
 
 import com.android.internal.annotations.VisibleForTesting;
 import com.android.internal.util.IndentingPrintWriter;
 import com.android.server.telecom.stats.CallStateChangedAtomWriter;
+import com.android.server.telecom.flags.FeatureFlags;
 
 import java.util.Collections;
 import java.util.Map;
@@ -113,6 +120,7 @@
     private final TelecomSystem.SyncRoot mLock;
     private final Timeouts.Adapter mTimeoutAdapter;
     private final ClockProxy mClockProxy;
+    private final FeatureFlags mFeatureFlags;
     private AnomalyReporterAdapter mAnomalyReporter = new AnomalyReporterAdapterImpl();
     // Pre-allocate space for 2 calls; realistically thats all we should ever need (tm)
     private final Map<Call, ScheduledFuture<?>> mScheduledFutureMap = new ConcurrentHashMap<>(2);
@@ -140,6 +148,11 @@
             UUID.fromString("d57d8aab-d723-485e-a0dd-d1abb0f346c8");
     public static final String WATCHDOG_DISCONNECTED_STUCK_EMERGENCY_CALL_MSG =
             "Telecom CallAnomalyWatchdog caught and disconnected a stuck/zombie emergency call.";
+    public static final UUID WATCHDOG_DISCONNECTED_STUCK_VOIP_CALL_UUID =
+            UUID.fromString("3fbecd12-059d-4fd3-87b7-6c3079891c23");
+    public static final String WATCHDOG_DISCONNECTED_STUCK_VOIP_CALL_MSG =
+            "Telecom CallAnomalyWatchdog caught stuck VoIP call in a starting state";
+
 
     @VisibleForTesting
     public void setAnomalyReporterAdapter(AnomalyReporterAdapter mAnomalyReporterAdapter){
@@ -148,10 +161,12 @@
 
     public CallAnomalyWatchdog(ScheduledExecutorService executorService,
             TelecomSystem.SyncRoot lock,
+            FeatureFlags featureFlags,
             Timeouts.Adapter timeoutAdapter, ClockProxy clockProxy,
             EmergencyCallDiagnosticLogger emergencyCallDiagnosticLogger) {
         mScheduledExecutorService = executorService;
         mLock = lock;
+        mFeatureFlags = featureFlags;
         mTimeoutAdapter = timeoutAdapter;
         mClockProxy = clockProxy;
         mEmergencyCallDiagnosticLogger = emergencyCallDiagnosticLogger;
@@ -272,8 +287,13 @@
      */
     private void maybeTrackCall(Call call) {
         final WatchdogCallState currentState = mWatchdogCallStateMap.get(call);
+        boolean isCreateConnectionComplete = call.isCreateConnectionComplete();
+        if (mFeatureFlags.disconnectSelfManagedStuckStartupCalls()) {
+            isCreateConnectionComplete =
+                    isCreateConnectionComplete || call.isTransactionalCall();
+        }
         final WatchdogCallState newState = new WatchdogCallState(call.getState(),
-                call.isCreateConnectionComplete(), mClockProxy.elapsedRealtime());
+                isCreateConnectionComplete, mClockProxy.elapsedRealtime());
         if (Objects.equals(currentState, newState)) {
             // No state change; skip.
             return;
@@ -348,8 +368,13 @@
                 }
                 // Ensure that at timeout we are still in the original state when we posted the
                 // timeout.
+                boolean isCreateConnectionComplete = call.isCreateConnectionComplete();
+                if (mFeatureFlags.disconnectSelfManagedStuckStartupCalls()) {
+                    isCreateConnectionComplete =
+                            isCreateConnectionComplete || call.isTransactionalCall();
+                }
                 final WatchdogCallState expiredState = new WatchdogCallState(call.getState(),
-                        call.isCreateConnectionComplete(), mClockProxy.elapsedRealtime());
+                        isCreateConnectionComplete, mClockProxy.elapsedRealtime());
                 if (expiredState.equals(newState)
                         && getDurationInCurrentStateMillis(newState) > timeoutMillis) {
                     // The call has been in this transitory or intermediate state too long,
@@ -368,7 +393,7 @@
                                 WATCHDOG_DISCONNECTED_STUCK_CALL_MSG);
                     }
 
-                    if (isEnabledDisconnect) {
+                    if (isEnabledDisconnect || isInSelfManagedStuckStartingState(call)) {
                         call.setOverrideDisconnectCauseCode(
                                 new DisconnectCause(DisconnectCause.ERROR, "state_timeout"));
                         call.disconnect("State timeout");
@@ -387,6 +412,50 @@
         return cleanupRunnable;
     }
 
+    private boolean isInSelfManagedStuckStartingState(Call call) {
+        Context context = call.getContext();
+        if (!mFeatureFlags.disconnectSelfManagedStuckStartupCalls() || context == null) {
+            return false;
+        }
+        int currentStuckState = call.getState();
+        return call.isSelfManaged() &&
+                (currentStuckState == CallState.NEW ||
+                        currentStuckState == CallState.RINGING ||
+                        currentStuckState == CallState.DIALING ||
+                        currentStuckState == CallState.CONNECTING) &&
+                isVanillaIceCreamBuildOrHigher(context, call);
+    }
+
+    private boolean isVanillaIceCreamBuildOrHigher(Context context, Call call) {
+        // report the anomaly for metrics purposes
+        mAnomalyReporter.reportAnomaly(
+                WATCHDOG_DISCONNECTED_STUCK_VOIP_CALL_UUID,
+                WATCHDOG_DISCONNECTED_STUCK_VOIP_CALL_MSG);
+        // only disconnect calls running on V and when the flag is enabled!
+        PhoneAccountHandle phoneAccountHandle = call.getTargetPhoneAccount();
+        PackageManager pm = context.getPackageManager();
+        if (pm == null ||
+                phoneAccountHandle == null ||
+                phoneAccountHandle.getComponentName() == null) {
+            return false;
+        }
+        String packageName = phoneAccountHandle.getComponentName().getPackageName();
+        Log.d(this, "pah=[%s], user=[%s]", phoneAccountHandle, call.getAssociatedUser());
+        ApplicationInfo applicationInfo;
+        try {
+            applicationInfo = pm.getApplicationInfoAsUser(
+                    packageName,
+                    0,
+                    call.getAssociatedUser());
+        } catch (Exception e) {
+            Log.e(this, e, "iVICBOH: pm.getApplicationInfoAsUser(...) exception");
+            return false;
+        }
+        int targetSdk = (applicationInfo == null) ? 0 : applicationInfo.targetSdkVersion;
+        Log.i(this, "iVICBOH: packageName=[%s], sdk=[%d]", packageName, targetSdk);
+        return targetSdk >= Build.VERSION_CODES.VANILLA_ICE_CREAM;
+    }
+
     /**
      * Returns whether the action to disconnect the call when the Transitory state and
      * Intermediate state time expires is enabled or disabled.
diff --git a/src/com/android/server/telecom/TelecomSystem.java b/src/com/android/server/telecom/TelecomSystem.java
index d7dcf38..7ff083f 100644
--- a/src/com/android/server/telecom/TelecomSystem.java
+++ b/src/com/android/server/telecom/TelecomSystem.java
@@ -375,7 +375,8 @@
 
             CallAnomalyWatchdog callAnomalyWatchdog = new CallAnomalyWatchdog(
                     Executors.newSingleThreadScheduledExecutor(),
-                    mLock, timeoutsAdapter, clockProxy, emergencyCallDiagnosticLogger);
+                    mLock, mFeatureFlags, timeoutsAdapter, clockProxy,
+                    emergencyCallDiagnosticLogger);
 
             TransactionManager transactionManager = TransactionManager.getInstance();
 
diff --git a/src/com/android/server/telecom/voip/OutgoingCallTransaction.java b/src/com/android/server/telecom/voip/OutgoingCallTransaction.java
index 8c970db..68ffecf 100644
--- a/src/com/android/server/telecom/voip/OutgoingCallTransaction.java
+++ b/src/com/android/server/telecom/voip/OutgoingCallTransaction.java
@@ -114,6 +114,12 @@
                             Log.d(TAG, "processTransaction: call done. id=" + call.getId());
                         }
 
+                        if (mFeatureFlags.disconnectSelfManagedStuckStartupCalls()) {
+                            // set to dialing so the CallAnomalyWatchdog gives the VoIP calls 1
+                            // minute to timeout rather than 5 seconds.
+                            mCallsManager.markCallAsDialing(call);
+                        }
+
                         return CompletableFuture.completedFuture(
                                 new VoipCallTransactionResult(
                                         VoipCallTransactionResult.RESULT_SUCCEED,
diff --git a/tests/src/com/android/server/telecom/tests/CallAnomalyWatchdogTest.java b/tests/src/com/android/server/telecom/tests/CallAnomalyWatchdogTest.java
index 86d24f9..a6f63bc 100644
--- a/tests/src/com/android/server/telecom/tests/CallAnomalyWatchdogTest.java
+++ b/tests/src/com/android/server/telecom/tests/CallAnomalyWatchdogTest.java
@@ -122,7 +122,7 @@
         doReturn(new ComponentName(mContext, CallTest.class))
                 .when(mMockConnectionService).getComponentName();
         mCallAnomalyWatchdog = new CallAnomalyWatchdog(mTestScheduledExecutorService, mLock,
-                mTimeouts, mMockClockProxy, mMockEmergencyCallDiagnosticLogger);
+                mFeatureFlags, mTimeouts, mMockClockProxy, mMockEmergencyCallDiagnosticLogger);
         mCallAnomalyWatchdog.setAnomalyReporterAdapter(mAnomalyReporterAdapter);
         when(mMockCallsManager.getCurrentUserHandle()).thenReturn(UserHandle.CURRENT);
     }